Glucosamine and Chondroitin
I don’t believe you have talked about glucosamine. I am a 53-year old female, vegan for 6 years, in excellent health. However, I have had various joint problems and just been told to take glucosamine by my doctor (750 mg twice daily). Whole Food Market carries several vegan brands. In your opinion do these really strengthen joints/cartilage and which would be the best one to take?
I performed a full literature review on glucosamine and chondroitin a number of years ago for a print newsletter I had at the time. I have checked in on the literature occasionally since then and thought now would be a good time to do so again.
Background: Cartilage is a substance that exists in many joints, such as the knee, that provides cushion between bones. When cartilage starts to wear away, bones start to grind against each other and osteoarthritis results. Glucosamine and chondroitin are components of cartilage and have been promoted as being able to rebuild or at least prevent the deterioration of cartilage. Glucosamine is generally vegan while chondroitin is not. There are vegan forms of glucosamine, especially glucosamine HCl. Glucosamine sulfate often comes from shellfish, but there are vegetarian forms. To my knowledge, there are no vegan forms of chondroitin. Methylsulfonyl methane (MSM) has also been touted to have similar beneficial effects on joints.
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When I wrote my first review, the conclusion at the time, based on a lot of research, was that 1500 mg per day of glucosamine might help prevent the progression of osteoarthritis if it was in its early stages.
I did a little searching today and found that things had not changed much.
I came across an abstract of a 2005 meta-analysis of studies on glucosamine and the progression of new osteoarthritis. It found that glucosamine reduced the amount of pain and progression of the disease (1).
An abstract from a 2010 meta-analysis of studies on glucosamine and chondroitin found no effect of treatment for the first year, but did find a “small to moderate protective effect” over the course of two to three years (2).
The most recent information I found was a 2011 meta-analysis from the British Medical Journal on glucosamine and chondroitin’s effects on osteoarthritis of the hip or knee. If found no benefit. The authors state:
“Results from randomised trials about the effectiveness of chondroitin and glucosamine are conflicting. Trials that have reported large effects on joint pain were often hampered by poor study quality and small sample sizes, whereas large methodologically sound trials often found only small or no effects.”
They conclude:
“Our findings indicate that glucosamine, chondroitin, and their combination do not result in a relevant reduction of joint pain nor affect joint space narrowing compared with placebo. Some patients, however, are convinced that these preparations are beneficial, which might be because of the natural course of osteoarthritis, regression to the mean, or the placebo effect. We are confident that neither of the preparations is dangerous. Therefore, we see no harm in having patients continue these preparations as long as they perceive a benefit and cover the costs of treatment themselves.”
I personally take glucosamine occasionally. It might not be effective if taken only occasionally, but I only have so much money I want to spend on a therapy that is questionable.
I do not have an opinion on which brand is best. There is some debate about whether glucosamine sulfate or glucosamine hydrochloride is better. I do not know the answer to that.
References
1. Poolsup N, Suthisisang C, Channark P, Kittikulsuth W. Glucosamine long-term treatment and the progression of knee osteoarthritis: systematic review of randomized controlled trials. Ann Pharmacother. 2005 Jun;39(6):1080-7. Epub 2005 Apr 26. Abstract
2. Lee YH, Woo JH, Choi SJ, Ji JD, Song GG. Effect of glucosamine or chondroitin sulfate on the osteoarthritis progression: a meta-analysis. Rheumatol Int. 2010 Jan;30(3):357-63. Abstract
3. Wandel S, Jüni P, Tendal B, Nüesch E, Villiger PM, Welton NJ, Reichenbach S, Trelle S. Effects of glucosamine, chondroitin, or placebo in patients with osteoarthritis of hip or knee: network meta-analysis. BMJ. 2010 Sep 16;341:c4675. Full Text
October 21st, 2011 at 11:30 am
Jack, I have to say that I really look forward to reading this column and I am always excited when you publish something new. You are an incredible resource for both vegans and omnivores. I did want to chime in and say that not every glucosamine out there is vegan–most Glucosamine sulfate is derived from shrimp, and if it states that it is vegan (the HCl form) it is usually corn-derived instead. Thanks for all of your hard work and your scientific, balanced viewpoint!
October 21st, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Maria,
Thanks for the head’s up. After writing the above post, I found a copy of my article from 2004 and saw that I noted in it that I had not found any vegetarian forms of glucosamine sulfate.
October 21st, 2011 at 4:17 pm
I found some vegetarian glucosamine sulfate: http://bit.ly/nL49sc
October 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am
Very interesting, thanks! I’m going to try to find out how they make that raw material…sometimes working in the supplement industry gives me the ability to dig around behind the scenes.
October 28th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Hi Jack, Glucosamine and Chondritin are elements of articular cartilage, however articular cartilage does not regenerate, many millions of dollars have been spent trying to get it to do so. It remains true. Articular cartilage has no blood supply, hence it remains questionable if any finds its target via means of a tablet. Articular cartilage has no nerve, so by definition if pain is a symptom cartilage is not the source. Why then does it seem to work, amongst even my patients? Pain is a weird thing, sometimes responding to a tablet, any tablet. This is my “red flag to the bull” topic, but the science around these supplements is more economically than ethically driven.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:15 am
I just saw this today while I was checking research at work—they’ve developed a new method to scientifically verify that glucosamine is coming from a vegetarian source—interesting!
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Industry/Glucosamine-identity-method-gets-patent/?c=7JEKCkCK0Opd1DK2VT8suw%3D%3D&utm_source=newsletter_daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily
June 7th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
Is it possible that a vegan diet could cause arthritis? I’m a 25 year old female and have just been told I have osteoarthiritis all through my body and I am also having problems with my teeth eroding. What could be the cause? I was told that I was b12 deficient and am now taking a supplement but the last time I had blood work done (3 years ago) I wasn’t deficient. Please let me know your thoughts on this. I’m really scared and really hoping that animal products aren’t the answer
June 7th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Natalie,
I’m really sorry to hear about this. I searched my emails which go back to 2010 and I couldn’t find any vegan mentioning to me that they have osteoarthritis. The Mayo Clinic doesn’t consider it to have any nutrition-related causes.
You seem very young to have osteoarthritis and the problem with your teeth makes me wonder if you’ve been diagnosed accurately. I’m not any expert in osteoarthritis diagnosis, but I think you should probably get a second opinion.
If you do have osteoarthritis throughout your body, you should be checked out for diseases that can cause it as mentioned here under “other diseases”:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/osteoarthritis/DS00019/DSECTION=risk-factors
Your tooth issue makes me wonder if you have had severe vitamin D or calcium deficiency and your calcium deficiency is being misdiagnosed as osteoporosis. Have you had your vitamin D levels checked? What have you been eating for calcium in recent years, and how much?
I’d start there.
If it does turn out that you have osteoarthritis, then, as mentioned in my article above, glucosamine might help and Dr. Greger has a video on Rose Hips helping people here:
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/dietary-osteoarthritis-treatment/
December 21st, 2017 at 12:18 pm
The article has to be updated. There’s a dead link to the product.
And there are now vegan Chondroitin sources, Mythocondro from Gnosis S.P.A. and Phytodroitin by Vegetology.
There’s no supplement with Mythocondro yet but there’s Joint-Vie from Vegetology which contains vegan Chondroitin.
But I hope for a pure Chondroitin or Glucosamine + Chondroitin supplement.
December 24th, 2017 at 3:40 am
Dear Jack, et al.
Articular cartilage does not regenerate, it has no vascular supply or nerve supply.
Placebo’s on the other hand work a treat. so.use the vegan placebo at twice the price, it’s bound to work twice as effectively as the other.
Remember, nill multiplied by 2 is still nill.
December 26th, 2017 at 3:17 pm
Michael,
Many times, when something is thought to be impossible based on basic ideas of anatomy or physiology, it turns out that there are exceptions to the rule.
I don’t think it was unreasonable to try supplements for regenerating cartilage. And there are evidence-based health professionals who think we should consider promoting a placebo effect due to its efficacy.
In the case of cartilage, pain is the biggest problem and unless the placebo is causing some harm, if it can provide relief then perhaps it should be promoted.
I’m not saying that all the benefit from cartilage supplements is a placebo, though I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.