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New Supplement with Vegan K2, D3, and “Chondroitin” Available

Thursday, November 5th, 2015

Vegetology, the makers of Vitashine vegan vitamin D3 have a new vegan supplement out for joints, Joint-vie. They sent me three bottles along with three bottles of their vegan omega 3 supplement Opti3 Omega-3 EPA & DHA. Other than some free products occasionally, I get no compensation from Vegetology.

Two tablets of Joint-vie include 400 IU vitamin D, 200 mg of calcium, 187.5 mg of magnesium, 80 mg of vitamin C, 37.5 µg of vitamin K2, 500 mg of vegan glucosamine, and 425 of a vegan version of chondroitin (called Phytodroitin).

In 2011, I wrote an article, Glucosamine and Chondroitin. My conclusion was that the therapies have not been shown to be generally effective. But that said, I think it’s great that there’s now a vegan version for people who want to try it and especially for those who would otherwise buy chondroitin made from shark cartilage.

It’s also good to have a vegan vitamin K2 product other than natto. I couldn’t tell from the label what version of K2 Joint-vie contains.

As always, here are my Daily Recommendations for the nutrients I think all vegans need to be aware of.

I won’t be able to give any recommendations for any individuals regarding these supplements. Chris from Vegetology will probably be tracking any comments on this blog post so I will let him answer any specific questions people have.

From VRG: Update on Vegetarian Chondroitin

Wednesday, March 28th, 2012

VRG Blog Post: Update on Vegetarian Chondroitin

Unfortunately, Martek has decided not to pursue vegetarian chondroitin, but I thought it was an interesting post that gives you an idea of what might be involved in developing vegan supplements.

Glucosamine and Chondroitin

Thursday, October 20th, 2011

I don’t believe you have talked about glucosamine. I am a 53-year old female, vegan for 6 years, in excellent health. However, I have had various joint problems and just been told to take glucosamine by my doctor (750 mg twice daily). Whole Food Market carries several vegan brands. In your opinion do these really strengthen joints/cartilage and which would be the best one to take?

I performed a full literature review on glucosamine and chondroitin a number of years ago for a print newsletter I had at the time. I have checked in on the literature occasionally since then and thought now would be a good time to do so again.

Background: Cartilage is a substance that exists in many joints, such as the knee, that provides cushion between bones. When cartilage starts to wear away, bones start to grind against each other and osteoarthritis results. Glucosamine and chondroitin are components of cartilage and have been promoted as being able to rebuild or at least prevent the deterioration of cartilage. Glucosamine is generally vegan while chondroitin is not. There are vegan forms of glucosamine, especially glucosamine HCl. Glucosamine sulfate often comes from shellfish, but there are vegetarian forms. To my knowledge, there are no vegan forms of chondroitin. Methylsulfonyl methane (MSM) has also been touted to have similar beneficial effects on joints.

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When I wrote my first review, the conclusion at the time, based on a lot of research, was that 1500 mg per day of glucosamine might help prevent the progression of osteoarthritis if it was in its early stages.

I did a little searching today and found that things had not changed much.

I came across an abstract of a 2005 meta-analysis of studies on glucosamine and the progression of new osteoarthritis. It found that glucosamine reduced the amount of pain and progression of the disease (1).

An abstract from a 2010 meta-analysis of studies on glucosamine and chondroitin found no effect of treatment for the first year, but did find a “small to moderate protective effect” over the course of two to three years (2).

The most recent information I found was a 2011 meta-analysis from the British Medical Journal on glucosamine and chondroitin’s effects on osteoarthritis of the hip or knee. If found no benefit. The authors state:

“Results from randomised trials about the effectiveness of chondroitin and glucosamine are conflicting. Trials that have reported large effects on joint pain were often hampered by poor study quality and small sample sizes, whereas large methodologically sound trials often found only small or no effects.”

They conclude:

“Our findings indicate that glucosamine, chondroitin, and their combination do not result in a relevant reduction of joint pain nor affect joint space narrowing compared with placebo. Some patients, however, are convinced that these preparations are beneficial, which might be because of the natural course of osteoarthritis, regression to the mean, or the placebo effect. We are confident that neither of the preparations is dangerous. Therefore, we see no harm in having patients continue these preparations as long as they perceive a benefit and cover the costs of treatment themselves.”

I personally take glucosamine occasionally. It might not be effective if taken only occasionally, but I only have so much money I want to spend on a therapy that is questionable.

I do not have an opinion on which brand is best. There is some debate about whether glucosamine sulfate or glucosamine hydrochloride is better. I do not know the answer to that.


1. Poolsup N, Suthisisang C, Channark P, Kittikulsuth W. Glucosamine long-term treatment and the progression of knee osteoarthritis: systematic review of randomized controlled trials. Ann Pharmacother. 2005 Jun;39(6):1080-7. Epub 2005 Apr 26. Abstract

2. Lee YH, Woo JH, Choi SJ, Ji JD, Song GG. Effect of glucosamine or chondroitin sulfate on the osteoarthritis progression: a meta-analysis. Rheumatol Int. 2010 Jan;30(3):357-63. Abstract

3. Wandel S, Jüni P, Tendal B, Nüesch E, Villiger PM, Welton NJ, Reichenbach S, Trelle S. Effects of glucosamine, chondroitin, or placebo in patients with osteoarthritis of hip or knee: network meta-analysis. BMJ. 2010 Sep 16;341:c4675. Full Text